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Talk:Ubuntu Hardy Installation Guide

2008-05-12T09:58:55Z

87.243.197.20: /* AIGLX */

==X RandR==

Can we enable the fglrx on RandR and do not write any things on xorg.conf?
==packages vs. installer==

What is everyone's opinion on the build-packages method versus running the automated installer?

I think we should start having a section explaining the install procedure with the auto-installer to, as begun on this page.

--- Arand, 21:16, Sunday, 09 March 2008
:Please make necessary changes to make it look like the [[Ubuntu Gutsy Installation Guide]] so they are easy to read. --[[User:Mooninite|Mooninite]] 10:46, 10 March 2008 (CDT)

This was the most helpful and concise explanation I found anywhere. It helped me no end. Couple of things though. My system couldn't find a library even though I had it installed. It was only in lib32 and lib64 so I copied a link to the lib folder. This was libGL.so.1.

Importantly, this installed the proprietary drivers but still didn't give me the hardware acceleration I needed. By accident I found that adding Option "TexturedVideo" under the Driver "fglrx" worked perfectly.

Thank you to the author.

== Installation guide not working for 8.476 ==

Hi,

It seems to me that the driver installation guide of 8-4 (8.476) does not work on Ubuntu 8.04. Following step-by-step the guide (method 2), I allways end up with 8.473 installed and running (while the system contains only 8.476 packages). If all instances, packages and modules of driver 8.473 are manually purged before 8.476 installation, the whole process ends up with the nonfunctional 3D (using mesa driver)

--- Eugenio, 10:30(CET), Tuesday, 22th April 2008

Eugenio, I have only tested it on a fresh install of Hardy, with only the mesa driver installed previously.
I updated the guide to 8.476 and am worried that it fails on some machines.

--- ilcavero

Thanks for your effort to solve the problem. I've been also looking for the solution on my local Ubuntu forum. I've met the other Ubuntu 8.04 who encountered the exactly same problem. After a week of googling and searching we still have found no solution. However, I found some notices on the web and it says, that the problem will be hopefully solved with the release of ubuntu 8.04.1 on July 6th. On the other hand, the previous driver 8.3 (8.473) works pretty well and hence there is no urgent need to install 8.4.

-- Eugenio, 9:00(CET), Sunday 27th April 2008

== Cleanup ==

I did a little cleanup and formatting, and clarified the configuration section in Method 2. I inserted a comment about TexturedVideo on the newer cards for Xv, as well. I hope nobody minds. --[[User:Porter|Porter]] 08:11PM EDT 29 April 2008

== Updating a manually installed driver ==

Would it be good to add some notes on how to update the driver when new releases are available. I'm a little unsure of this myself; is it as simple as building the packages as per the instructions and doing the usual sudo apt-get install or is there more to it?
:There is no auto-update routine as of yet. Upgrading will require a simple download, build, and install per the existing method. --[[User:Porter|Porter]] 02:10PM EDT 06 May 2008

OK, thanks. I should also mention I did a manual install on a clean install of Kubuntu Hardy - everything is fine but the restricted drivers GUI tool (jockey-kde) notes that fglrx is "In Use" AND "enabled". Shouldn't be any need to panic :)

"In USE" and "ENABLED" is also shown by Restricted drivers manager in Gnome after using the second manual instalation method. However, the driver works fine.

--- Eugenio, 10:45(CET), Monday, 12th May 2008

==Additional xorg.conf Edits==
===AIGLX===
A while back, I think in feisty it was recommended to add
Option "AIGLX" "off"
to xorg.conf to get compiz to work.
This will need to be removed when removing xgl or the desktop will break.

Talk:Ubuntu Hardy Installation Guide

2008-05-12T09:58:41Z

87.243.197.20: /* Additional xorg.conf Edits */

==X RandR==

Can we enable the fglrx on RandR and do not write any things on xorg.conf?
==packages vs. installer==

What is everyone's opinion on the build-packages method versus running the automated installer?

I think we should start having a section explaining the install procedure with the auto-installer to, as begun on this page.

--- Arand, 21:16, Sunday, 09 March 2008
:Please make necessary changes to make it look like the [[Ubuntu Gutsy Installation Guide]] so they are easy to read. --[[User:Mooninite|Mooninite]] 10:46, 10 March 2008 (CDT)

This was the most helpful and concise explanation I found anywhere. It helped me no end. Couple of things though. My system couldn't find a library even though I had it installed. It was only in lib32 and lib64 so I copied a link to the lib folder. This was libGL.so.1.

Importantly, this installed the proprietary drivers but still didn't give me the hardware acceleration I needed. By accident I found that adding Option "TexturedVideo" under the Driver "fglrx" worked perfectly.

Thank you to the author.

== Installation guide not working for 8.476 ==

Hi,

It seems to me that the driver installation guide of 8-4 (8.476) does not work on Ubuntu 8.04. Following step-by-step the guide (method 2), I allways end up with 8.473 installed and running (while the system contains only 8.476 packages). If all instances, packages and modules of driver 8.473 are manually purged before 8.476 installation, the whole process ends up with the nonfunctional 3D (using mesa driver)

--- Eugenio, 10:30(CET), Tuesday, 22th April 2008

Eugenio, I have only tested it on a fresh install of Hardy, with only the mesa driver installed previously.
I updated the guide to 8.476 and am worried that it fails on some machines.

--- ilcavero

Thanks for your effort to solve the problem. I've been also looking for the solution on my local Ubuntu forum. I've met the other Ubuntu 8.04 who encountered the exactly same problem. After a week of googling and searching we still have found no solution. However, I found some notices on the web and it says, that the problem will be hopefully solved with the release of ubuntu 8.04.1 on July 6th. On the other hand, the previous driver 8.3 (8.473) works pretty well and hence there is no urgent need to install 8.4.

-- Eugenio, 9:00(CET), Sunday 27th April 2008

== Cleanup ==

I did a little cleanup and formatting, and clarified the configuration section in Method 2. I inserted a comment about TexturedVideo on the newer cards for Xv, as well. I hope nobody minds. --[[User:Porter|Porter]] 08:11PM EDT 29 April 2008

== Updating a manually installed driver ==

Would it be good to add some notes on how to update the driver when new releases are available. I'm a little unsure of this myself; is it as simple as building the packages as per the instructions and doing the usual sudo apt-get install or is there more to it?
:There is no auto-update routine as of yet. Upgrading will require a simple download, build, and install per the existing method. --[[User:Porter|Porter]] 02:10PM EDT 06 May 2008

OK, thanks. I should also mention I did a manual install on a clean install of Kubuntu Hardy - everything is fine but the restricted drivers GUI tool (jockey-kde) notes that fglrx is "In Use" AND "enabled". Shouldn't be any need to panic :)

"In USE" and "ENABLED" is also shown by Restricted drivers manager in Gnome after using the second manual instalation method. However, the driver works fine.

--- Eugenio, 10:45(CET), Monday, 12th May 2008

==Additional xorg.conf Edits==
=AIGLX=
A while back, I think in feisty it was recommended to add
Option "AIGLX" "off"
to xorg.conf to get compiz to work.
This will need to be removed when removing xgl or the desktop will break.

Talk:Ubuntu Hardy Installation Guide

2008-05-12T09:58:18Z

87.243.197.20: need to remove AIGLX off from xorg.conf

==X RandR==

Can we enable the fglrx on RandR and do not write any things on xorg.conf?
==packages vs. installer==

What is everyone's opinion on the build-packages method versus running the automated installer?

I think we should start having a section explaining the install procedure with the auto-installer to, as begun on this page.

--- Arand, 21:16, Sunday, 09 March 2008
:Please make necessary changes to make it look like the [[Ubuntu Gutsy Installation Guide]] so they are easy to read. --[[User:Mooninite|Mooninite]] 10:46, 10 March 2008 (CDT)

This was the most helpful and concise explanation I found anywhere. It helped me no end. Couple of things though. My system couldn't find a library even though I had it installed. It was only in lib32 and lib64 so I copied a link to the lib folder. This was libGL.so.1.

Importantly, this installed the proprietary drivers but still didn't give me the hardware acceleration I needed. By accident I found that adding Option "TexturedVideo" under the Driver "fglrx" worked perfectly.

Thank you to the author.

== Installation guide not working for 8.476 ==

Hi,

It seems to me that the driver installation guide of 8-4 (8.476) does not work on Ubuntu 8.04. Following step-by-step the guide (method 2), I allways end up with 8.473 installed and running (while the system contains only 8.476 packages). If all instances, packages and modules of driver 8.473 are manually purged before 8.476 installation, the whole process ends up with the nonfunctional 3D (using mesa driver)

--- Eugenio, 10:30(CET), Tuesday, 22th April 2008

Eugenio, I have only tested it on a fresh install of Hardy, with only the mesa driver installed previously.
I updated the guide to 8.476 and am worried that it fails on some machines.

--- ilcavero

Thanks for your effort to solve the problem. I've been also looking for the solution on my local Ubuntu forum. I've met the other Ubuntu 8.04 who encountered the exactly same problem. After a week of googling and searching we still have found no solution. However, I found some notices on the web and it says, that the problem will be hopefully solved with the release of ubuntu 8.04.1 on July 6th. On the other hand, the previous driver 8.3 (8.473) works pretty well and hence there is no urgent need to install 8.4.

-- Eugenio, 9:00(CET), Sunday 27th April 2008

== Cleanup ==

I did a little cleanup and formatting, and clarified the configuration section in Method 2. I inserted a comment about TexturedVideo on the newer cards for Xv, as well. I hope nobody minds. --[[User:Porter|Porter]] 08:11PM EDT 29 April 2008

== Updating a manually installed driver ==

Would it be good to add some notes on how to update the driver when new releases are available. I'm a little unsure of this myself; is it as simple as building the packages as per the instructions and doing the usual sudo apt-get install or is there more to it?
:There is no auto-update routine as of yet. Upgrading will require a simple download, build, and install per the existing method. --[[User:Porter|Porter]] 02:10PM EDT 06 May 2008

OK, thanks. I should also mention I did a manual install on a clean install of Kubuntu Hardy - everything is fine but the restricted drivers GUI tool (jockey-kde) notes that fglrx is "In Use" AND "enabled". Shouldn't be any need to panic :)

"In USE" and "ENABLED" is also shown by Restricted drivers manager in Gnome after using the second manual instalation method. However, the driver works fine.

--- Eugenio, 10:45(CET), Monday, 12th May 2008

==Additional xorg.conf Edits==
A while back, I think in feisty it was recommended to add
Option "AIGLX" "off"
to xorg.conf to get compiz to work.
This will need to be removed when removing xgl or the desktop will break.

Talk:Ubuntu Gutsy Installation Guide

2008-05-12T09:56:28Z

87.243.197.20: Removed previous edit Should be in hardy

I was unable to execute "sudo sh ati-driver-installer-8-02-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/gutsy" because it says missing lib32. i had to install lib32 package which should have been mentioned in the documentation

== dkms? ==

I don't see any instructions for this newfangled dkms thing... Is it it done automatically? — [[User:SheeEttin|SheeEttin]] {[[User_talk:SheeEttin|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/SheeEttin|C]]} 09:13, 24 December 2007 (CST)

ANSWER: just install it before installing fglrx packages... they will invoke it. Nothing to do.

== APT/Aptitude ==
This guide use apt-get. Sometimes the apt-get and aptitude are interchangeable, but not always. Please don't edit this guide without knowing how use aptitude. For instance the commend "aptitude install -f" is not secure, can provoke damages (especially for "unstable" distributions).
In my opinion apt-get is better for this guide. --[[User:Subvertigo|Subvertigo]] 15:26, 13 January 2008 (CST)

== Problems with 3D acceleration ==
When I try to load an app. that lacks 3D acceleration like Celestia, Stellarium etc. my computer just logs off, and I have to log back in!? Please guide me.

==Found issues==

===Mipmapping in Compiz===
When mipmapping is enabled in compiz modules then they the contents don't show up. Disabling mipmapping fixes these problems. Ubunty 7.10 and ATI 8.1.

===Kibadock glitches===
Kibadock has a black background when acceleration is NOT enabled. When acceleration IS enabled it has some problems with some applications where windows aren't visible.

===Flickering video===
When videos are played in various players including embedded on websites with firefox then the video flickers with black.

* Has anyone found a solution to the flickering? I find it also occurs in 3d-enabled games. 11:56, 7 March 2008 (CST)

It seems to be tied to compiz. When I disable desktop effects (System --> Preferences --> Appearance --> Visual Effects --> Set to "None") the flickering on videos goes away. If I enable any degree of effects, even the lowest setting, the flickering reappears again. Very annoying. I'm running driver version 8.44.3 (don't recall the Catalyst version associated with this) on an X1950XT.

Update: Updated to driver version 8.47.3 and the same flickering on video continues as long as desktop effects are enabled.

==Comments==

===Infinite Loop===
Looks to me like 128.8.120.187, which seems to be a computer name Prospector in a lab of the University of Maryland Institute for Advanced Computer Studies, found my solution at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=663111&p=4109726, and put in a comment on the infinite loop possibility on 23:28, 21 February 2008, under the 4.1 3D desktop effects section. I couldn't find a fix for that anywhere, but finally figured it out myself, and let others know of the solution. It's just cool to see that someone thought my contribution was good enough for the Unofficial ATI Linux Driver Wiki's Ubuntu Gutsy Installation Guide, which I keep coming to over and over as I mess up my system again and again :D

So, whenever you get a solution to anything, put it online. It might be important.

~ pgn674

Talk:Ubuntu Gutsy Installation Guide

2008-05-12T09:53:37Z

87.243.197.20: